Had before pre from panda or apollon nutrition (which i believe its well overhyped) but i settled to this , been using it for past few months and its solid all around ,finally I feel like this gives me everything I need for a good sesh
tastes great, mid level stim experience with low caffiene, no negatives. This is just what I was looking for on lowerbody training sessions. I got the full tub after trying samples.